Breeding same cross breed with cross breed? Help advice needed?

I have a collie - german shepherd cross dog and would like to breed him with a same cross *****. Can anyone offer me any advise on this? I realise that I would need to get him tested, he is just such a great dog that seems to have inherited the best of both his parents' breeds that I would like some of his puppies.


This is an idea that I am mulling over and I would appreciate any advice, knowledge and wisdom from those with experience so that I can decide whether to research the idea further or abandon the pipedream altogether....Breeding same cross breed with cross breed? Help advice needed?
The biggest problem that I see is that you would have to research both breeds and find out what genetic defects are common, then have tests run that would cover all of the possibilities. This may be a lot of different tests. Also, you would have to make sure that the female would have all of the tests done too. This would also include getting the hips on both dogs x-rayed for hip dysplasia. That usually runs in the ball park of about $1000 each dog.





It may not be financially feasible to do this, because you could not sell the mixed breed puppies for enough money to cover the vet expenses.Breeding same cross breed with cross breed? Help advice needed?
I wish you had asked this question some years back. I also have a Shepherd-Collie mix, however she has more of a Lassie look than Shepherd look. A beautiful girl, but fixed and now 16 years old. I will tell you though, that the puppies that she did have were absolutely beautiful! Good luck to you. I wish she were younger and still able to have pupppies. We would definitely be talking!
There is no valid reason for breeding yet more crossbreeds to fill the already overcrowded animal shelters. GSD x Collie is one of the commonest crosses around %26amp; certainly not the easiest to find homes for. If you did decide to go ahead with this, you would need to have your dog hip and elbow scored (around 拢200.00) , eye tested (around 拢40.00) and the male would have to be tested for haemophilia A.


The other problem is that you have no idea what horrors may lie behind his breeding which didn't come out in him but may have shown themselves in his siblings or his parents' siblings and may well reappear in his offspring.


The same costs would, of course, apply to the *****, so you are talking 拢500.00 before you even start on whelping costs, vet bills, rearing the puppies, including all their food, bedding, damage they do while they grow, advertising etc. etc. You say you would like some of his puppies - how would you like 10 or more?? Would you be in a position to take back any or all of the puppies if the new owners had to give them up for some reason at any time during their lives?


Everyone thinks their dog is ';special';, however, 99% of them are not special enough to warrant being bred from. He's special to you but it's hard enough to reproduce a fantastic dog from many generations of dedicated breeding - virtually impossible from 2 randomly bred dogs of different breeds. Treasure him for what he is.
Why breed more pups when 100 are slatered by the RAPCA each year because they can't find homes for them?
It may be difficult to find another dog with the same cross breed. It also may be difficult to find good homes for the puppies you don't want to keep.
While it's wonderful to hear that he seems to have inherited the best of his parents' breeds, you need to consider a couple of things:





1. This isn't always the case, that they inherit the best.


2. You can't predict anything about what his puppies will or will not inherit, because:


A.) You don't know anything about his parents -- health, temperament, anything.


B.) You won't know anything about the parents of the ****** you breed him to.


C.) Consider that you may end up with a puppy nothing like him, but more like his grandparents. What do you know about them?


3.) Breeding mixes -- even in the F2 generation, is never predictable. Even the people who developed purebreds by mixing culled hundreds of dogs in the process in order to get what they wanted, and this process took years. -- You aren't going to get what you want in one generation.





You should really look at adopting a ';brother'; or ';sister'; instead, and accepting the fact that your dog is one-of-a-kind.
There are plenty of great mutts and purebreds dying for lack of homes, go adopt another great mutt if you want a dog. I adopted a 2 yr old n/m Choc Lab from field lines who was a stray and was obed. trained, housebroken, loves to retrieve,isn't gunshy, loves to swim, doesn't chew, doesn't beg, doesn't get on furniture or steal food. He gets along with my 6 other dogs, the dogs at the dog park and has passed his TT eval. Why his owners dumped him is a mystery, he has no bad habits and is an easy going, affectionate, perfect pet. He was first place in his obed. class with only being worked 2 times a week. There are many many more equally great pets waiting at shelters and rescues for good permanent homes, do the doggie world a favor and adopt. It would be the best tribute to your dog.
Why would you want to unless you've already got homes lined up for the pups. There are enough abandoned dogs and puppies without adding more. They will still be mongrels, and could be difficult to re-home. Personally I love mongrels because they are all individual, but, putting this aside please don't allow any more unwanted dogs to be born. Do the sensible thing and get your dog doctored just love him for him and if you want another puppy go to dogs home and give an unwanted one a loving home.
It isn't adviceable that you breed from your dog. Even if you were to find a gsd x collie ******, there is no guarantee the pups would turn out anything like there parents. Breeding takes alot of time, effort and money and using a male pet dog for stud can have consequences as the dog can become more dominant esp with other males, attempt to mount people and be constantly on the look out for bitches. Just enjoy your dogs wonderful personality and don't create problems that don't excist.
yes don,t do it isn,t there enough unwanted puppys in the world you,d be better off casrating him
You would be breeding mutts. There are enough mutts being put down in shelters and rescues because of backyard breeders. They are the biggest contributors to the euthanizing of dogs. To many dogs and not enough homes. Please don't bring another litter of mutts into this world and be yet another backyard breeder.





The ONLY reason to breed is for the betterment of the breed.





Please, please get your dog spayed. Giving birth is very painful. Your dog could die, the puppies could die. Don't do this to your dog. Let her be a pet.
The belief that a persons dog is the best dog ever is shared by many. My personal opinion is that if you didn't feel that way about your dog,,, you have the wrong dog!!


So that really doesn't equate to a legitimate reason to breed.





What you are suggesting has been tried many times, and unfortunately it is a disaster.


F-2 puppy's will have the inheritable problems of both breeds, and lack the ';hybrid hyper'; of F-1 pups.


The reality is that anytime anyone wants to breed other than the norm, they need the advice of a Dr. of genetics (PhD)





Let me show you something:


This is the old boy in my avatar


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This puppy is his great granddaughter


http://www.sweetbreezbeagles.com/DSC0159鈥?/a>


There are over 20 generations of very careful breeding involved in accomplishing that type of consistency.


Best off leaving the breeding to those that know what they are doing. If you want to learn, find yourself a mentor that will teach you. But, wait until you know, before doing it.
When you are breeding mutts, even the same cross, there is NO WAY to predict what you will get.
Just this Feb I was faced with the decision of euthanizing my dear Micah. I knew the time was coming, old age. He was my soul mate. I got him as a puppy, we journeyed life together. He was my companion, my buddy. He was my agility dog too. He obtained championships in 3 different organizations, we qualified to attend the championship shows (you see on Animal Planet) in the 4 different venues.We took walks, went camping, shared many adventures. He slept on my bed. My heart is still broken.





I used to raise Shelties for conformation showing for decades, but when I had children, stopped. When I decided I wanted to do agility, I went to a breeder friend and chose my Micah. I had him neutered. He was a beautiful dog, very sound and athletic and a great agility dog. And a great friend.





Am I sorry I didn't keep him intact for an offspring? NO. An offspring would not have been my Micah.





When Micah starting aging, I decided to get a pup for ';emotional protection';, knowing the time would, too soon, come that I would be forced to say goodbye to him.





I surprisingly, to myself, got a Border Collie female again, for agility. She has been so bright, so easy to train, so funny and is quite the thing in agility.





I spayed her. Do I regret it? Again no.





There are tons are very great dogs out there. Leave breeding to the breeders, and rescue the ones who were boo boos.
Do dogs a favor and have your dog neutered. 3-4 MILLION dogs and cats are put to sleep in the US every year (mostly mixed breeds) because there are not enough homes for them. Collie/Shepard mix is common in shelters and there is absolutely no way of telling how the pups would turn out.


Don't become part of the dog over population problem.
DON'T even full breed dogs should be bred selectively
first you don't know how the puppies will turn out.


Secondly if you dont have people lined up for them then what.


Thirdly even then people can back out.


If you educate yourself and still want to try then go ahead. But remember you have the male finding a female may be hard most people don't like breeding mutts. And many people forget that many of the ';pure breeds'; were at one time concidered mutts
I know it is tempting to breed your dog because he is so wonderful and you'd like another just like him. However, like other people have said, there's no guarantee that the puppies will be anything like him. Even with purebred dogs, it is unpredictable. Experienced breeders will watch to see which stud dogs tend to pass on their good genes and which don't. Dogs that pass on good genes are then seen as proven studs and more dependable. With a mixed breed dog, it is much more unpredictable.





It's a shame that dogs don't live as long as we'd like them to. I understand how you feel. But just think of all the people that aren't as lucky as you to have the great dog that you have. Enjoy him for as long as you can. Luckily with mixed breeds they tend to live longer than pure breeds!
You could ask your vet what they think. If both dogs being bred have a similar personality the personalities of the puppies should be good. I would just check into what kind of health issues you may be breeding into the puppies. You could research that on-line.
if you breed three generations of them you can register as a new pedigree. you will not guarantee the temperament of the pups